I'm three interviews deep when I find myself in a vibe-heavy final catch-up with the company founder. We’ve popped into a trendy pokie-pub-turned-natural-wine-bar in Surry Hills, and I have 30 minutes to seal the deal, tie a neat little bow on the package I’ve been selling myself as. This is the final boss, the last level, and my confidence is walking a fine line between casual and chaotic.